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A number
of years ago there was a forgettable flick called Bound By Honor,
most notable for its cast of soon to be stars, including Billy Bob Thornton,
Benjamin Bratt and Ving Rhames. Across the last five years Cranky has
never failed to note that, regardless of how good or how bad a flick is,
Rhames is always good. We jumped at the chance to talk with the
man, and covered a tremendous amount of interesting ground, talking Race,
Film Directors, Tom Cruise, next year's Impossible flick, and the one
after that (the Sonny Liston Story). We began, of course, with Bringing
Out the Dead and Rhames' reason for taking the part of Marcus, an
EMS Driver who steals the show by invoking Jesus in a gospel rave above
the body of an OD'd New York clubgoer. Trust us, that part of the flick
just rocks solid . . .
CrankyCritic:
Tell us what interested you about Bringing Out The Dead.
Ving Rhames: Working with Martin Scorsese. Even before I
got a script. I really respect him as a director and he let me flesh out
the character. I grew up on 126th Street in Harlem and I used to go to
the barber shops there. There were the old guys with the processed hair
that had all these stories. I thought Marcus kind of fits that. I brought
in the religious element based on my dad. My dad was a guy who would drink
and get his high on and start talking about God. I tried to blend those
elements in this character.
CrankyCritic:
Any heavy duty research for this role?
Ving Rhames: I had one incident; two weeks before filming my girlfriend
had an allergic reaction to an antibiotic. I called 911 and they got there
within 4 minutes and went to the hospital. That was when they told me
she almost died. Then I started talking to them about their work. But
about this film, there's something Martin Scorsese said, it's focussed
on the relationships of the people. These folks could be policemen,
whatever, but my character, quite honestly, doesn't do that much paramedically.
I focussed on the relationship between myself and Nic. I'd worked with
Nic before. I know Nic. There's a natural chemistry and we kind of stayed
in character a lot between takes. It just worked. It didn't feel like
work.
CrankyCritic:
So there was no medical prep stuff to carry over from your days on
e.r.?
Ving Rhames: No. Scorsese sets up what I call a structured freedom.
He says "Look. We need to get from A to Z. Here's the map I'm drawing
out for you." He allowed us to improvise. He gave us a lot of freedom
but we knew we had to get from Point A to Point Z. It was a real natural
organic process of working. He allowed me to put in all that religious
stuff. He allowed me to just go. And some nights he'd say "Ving's
in a zone. Leave him alone." [laghs] I look at acting as
an examination of the human experience. I've been fortunate that the people
I've worked with don't have any limitations. Scorsese would say if I could
find something more organic than anything he's thought, he'll allow you
to go there. It was one of the quote unquote best experiences I've had
as an actor.
CrankyCritic:
[original BOTD novel writer] Joe Connelly told us he thought
Marcus was "fatalistic".
Ving Rhames: I didn't think so. This character deals with life
and death everyday. When I was growing up in Harlem I dealt with life
and death everyday. One of the things I dealt with, subconsciously, was
how to desensitize myself to things. Hearing a gunshot. Seeing a junkie
OD or nodding off in the hallway. I didn't feel fatalistic about it. In
that environment, that was how life was. With Marcus I had to find what
the hope was in his life. The hope is dealing with his spiritual point
of view. [Marcus' view was:] All of us are going to die one day. When
it's my turn, it's my turn. I'll be there with Jesus Christ my Lord and
Savior. I'm secure in that so I can have my little sip of gin and look
at my women and know there's a better life after this. That's how Marcus
dealt with it.
CrankyCritic:
When people work in life and death situations they learn to make fun
of it.
Ving Rhames: My girlfriend just retired after ten years as a LAPD
Homicide Detective. Some of the stories she could tell you! I met some
of the characters she worked with. Someone should do a film on those guys
because, the kind of stories these guys would tell me and show me pictures
and laugh about it. Like "see this guy here? He tried to blow his
brains out and missed!" I realized that, in order for them to do
this job day in and day out, they had to in some way desensitize themselves
to whatever was the norm. That's how I feel about these paramedics. I
grew up in New York. I used to hang out at a club called The Garage, which
opened up at midnight and closed at like twelve the next day. So, seeing
things on 42nd Street at three or four in the morning while we were filming,
it was no big deal to me.
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