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David Kelly
Born
in Dublin, David Kelly trained with Dublin's acclaimed Abbey
Theatre, and he'll mention other prominent Abbey breeders as Cranky's
StarTalk continues. Though principally a theater actor, eagled eyed
PBS viewers should recognize Kelly from recurring roles in John
Cleese's Fawlty Towers. We pick up with a dissection
of the character of Michael O'Sullivan . . .
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Cranky:
Michael
is such a devoted friend to Jackie, but he winds up in so much trouble.
. .
David Kelly: That's right! He's led astray by this wicked, ancient
friend of his. They would have been kids together and, as kids, it would
have ben exactly the same. Jackie was always the rogue and Michael was
always the truthful one. The two of them didn't have much of a childhood,
helping their parents run the farm or fishing. Now they're aged kids having
a great adventure. Waking Ned Devine is not about the money, it's
not about avarice. It's about the friendship and the love between these
two old fellas. That's stated pretty clearly in the film, I think.
Cranky:
It's all about friendship.
David Kelly: There's nothing else but friendship and love in the
end. Money won't get it for you. It's the most important element in the
whole fabric of that film. It's the way films used to be, I mean, the
entertainment thing seems to have vanished completely. In Cannes, this
man stopped us in the street and he said to us "I've been seeing
all the movies here and they're all about rape and incest and murder and
I was thinking to myself 'Is life worth living?' and then I saw Waking
Ned Devine last night and thought 'Yes! It is'. Thanks a bunch."
Turns out it was the film critic for the LA Times. [laughing] David said
to me, "yeah let's see what he puts in the paper." and that
was exactly what he put in the paper. The reaction has been staggering.
Cranky:
sounds like your partner is not a happy movie goer. David Kelly:
Every movie I've seen, and I've been on an awful lot of airplanes
lately, I've only got through half of most of them. They're too depressing.
There are serious issues that should be dealt with and you can
make an entertaining serious movie, just as you can read a serious book.
But I'm afraid most of them are feel bad movies. You come out of the theater
depressed. Where's the entertainment value in that? I think it's arrogant
to do so. The people who paid their money should come out feeling better
than they did when they went in.
Cranky:
Is getting a role like this one, especially at your age, like winning
the lotto?
David Kelly: It's better than winning the lotto. I've been acting
for 50 years, basically in theater. This is certainly the best part I've
ever had in one of the best films I've ever seen. At 69, the chance of
getting this kind of part . . . you probably have a better chance of winning
the lotto.
Cranky:
Do you play?
David Kelly: I don't, really. I'm in the middle of a television
series for Irish Television and there's a betting pool at the station
and I joined that. Ian does it all the time.
Cranky:
How is it that you and Ian have never worked together?
David Kelly: I knew his work of course. We both started at the
Gate theater in Dublin, where Orson Welles started. Ian, Orson and I would
have been the three heterosexuals in the company. It was very oriented
toward "consenting adults" in private. The Abbey Theater, where
I trained was Sean O'Casey time and WB Yeates, homespun Celtic twilight
time. The two theaters were known as Sodom and Begorrah. {laughs} To this
day. We started there but never actually worked together there, or anywhere
else. People don't believe that.
Cranky:
You filmed Waking Ned Devine in a village called Cregneash,
not in Ireland but on the Isle of Man . . .
David Kelly: We didn't know how we'd be received in the place.
Kirk told them the story and they were delighted. All the extras in the
film are the people of the village. So we were in this real place, a working
village with fisherman and farmers and pig farmers and we shot it as it
is. The interior of the church and the house is exactly what it is. The
people you see walking around are the actual villagers. It was a huge
help to us. It was 24 carat real. You'll never get that reality in a studio.
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